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Post by DaveS 10th March 2010, 22:21

http://www.visordown.com/product-news/crash-bungs-they-stopped-this-s1000rr-from-paying-the-price/9852.html

Hope they never have to do it for me!

Looks like other places also have their fair share of pedestrian problems!! Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes
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Post by Marnus 10th March 2010, 23:13

Ouch! I also hope you never get to use them...
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Post by DeonP 11th March 2010, 07:51

I think they essential on your bike like crash bars on a GS !
Prevention always better !
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Post by LeRoy Olivier 11th March 2010, 08:30

Dave - do you have it fitted to your bike????. In the 80's crashbars was standard on all superbikes. Later it was thought that said crashbards was the main cause for loss of limbs during accidents - hence it was removed - it however served the same puporse as these crash bobbins you now refer to.
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Post by DaveS 11th March 2010, 11:45

LeRoy Olivier wrote:Dave - do you have it fitted to your bike????. In the 80's crashbars was standard on all superbikes. Later it was thought that said crashbards was the main cause for loss of limbs during accidents - hence it was removed - it however served the same puporse as these crash bobbins you now refer to.

Yes - one of the first things fitted. On the ADV have the crash bars as protection - so the crash bobbins will hopefully help if the S100RR should fall off the side stand. Wink

Crash bobbins do their job... Bobbinsright

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Post by Richard H 12th March 2010, 16:14

Those indicators look rather fragile in that position.
Have you priced the part...?





(Betcha it costs a packet...!) Rolling Eyes
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Post by DaveS 12th March 2010, 23:55

Even if you put the led indicators on the bike they still vulnerable. Hopefully the bobbins will help for them too.

Guess it depends on whether the bike falls over sideways or with a forward motion. Wink
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Post by Richard H 13th March 2010, 02:29

LeRoy Olivier wrote: In the 80's crashbars was standard on all superbikes. Later it was thought that said crashbars was the main cause for loss of limbs during accidents - hence it was removed - it however served the same purpose as these crash bobbins you now refer to.
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This came from an ill-conceived response to doctors concerns about motorcyclists. In the early fifties, motorcycles had no crash-bars and there was a very high number of ankle injuries resulting from them being crushed between motor and road surface. (Riding boots with built-in steel ankle protection plates did not exist at this time!) Responding to orthopaedic advice, the regulatory authorities brought in the bars to reduce the number of ankle injuries.
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The number of ankle injuries recorded were reduced dramatically. But the motorcycles were never designed for the crash-bars in the first place and so they were just attached on to 'wherever' - usually the rear shock mounting bolt and the foot-peg mounting point - by means of a generic bracket. Unfortunately, these ad hoc mounting brackets deformed easily in an accident and folded over the rider or pillion passenger's leg, crushing the tibia and fibula. Yes, there was a recorded reduction in ankle injuries - but they didn't measure the number of amputations resulting from below-knee injuries. These rose steeply until, in the late seventies, the crash-bar requirement was removed - again on orthodpaedic advice.

Similarly, the increased use of moto-cross boots has reduced the number of ankle and leg breaks in riders, but the knee injuries have increased accordingly - especially riders using the rigid plastic boot which restricts the body's own slight flex in the tibia and fibula. It is also seen in dramatically in skiers wearing rigid boots that clip into their skis. The rotation of a ski moves up from the ankle, becomes a rotation in the knee and the two ligaments holding the kneecap in position can tear off - resulting in a difficult and rather unsuccessful surgical repair.

(BTW - Built-in ankle protection in a fall has always been one of the reasons why I love the BMW Boxer motor...!) Very Happy

Interestingly too is the fact that the number of motorcycle accidents rises slightly when countries or states implement a helmet law.
(This is conveniently ignored by the legislators.) It is most noticeable where full-face helmets are required or encouraged for face protection and is believed to be due to the fact that motorcyclist loses one sense when wearing a helmet - hearing. This means, for example, that a rider cannot hear the sound of a cars engine as it moves to overtake. This only increases the need for riders to be more aware of what they see in their mirrors!

Lets be careful out there...! Cool
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Post by Marnus 14th March 2010, 13:48

Uhm... so I should not listen to my iPod in transit?

And I really couldn't hear the manhole without the cover Crash bobbins do their job... Fresse
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Post by dakardrix 15th March 2010, 10:13

Richard H wrote:


Interestingly too is the fact that the number of motorcycle accidents rises slightly when countries or states implement a helmet law.
(This is conveniently ignored by the legislators.) It is most noticeable where full-face helmets are required or encouraged for face protection and is believed to be due to the fact that motorcyclist loses one sense when wearing a helmet - hearing. This means, for example, that a rider cannot hear the sound of a cars engine as it moves to overtake. This only increases the need for riders to be more aware of what they see in their mirrors!

Must say, I don't believe that for one bit! Sounds like propaganda wars and one-sided research. I believe we compensate for visibility and less hearing by our nature (as if hearing a car on the Ben Schoeman makes any difference - how do you hear a lane change?) I've seen how quickly I adapted to the Leatt Brace.

Anyway, anyone who honestly thinks you are better off without a helmet than with one probably doesn't deserve what should be inside the helmet.

My cousin was killed in the States, falling while negotiating a long bend (on-ramp or something) He was wearing a helmet, his passenger without a helmet survived. So that happens, but if you honestly take that statistic and interpret it wrongly without applying common sense, then I don't know...
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Post by LeRoy Olivier 15th March 2010, 12:04

Maybe the manhole cover was off - why you could not hear it?????
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Post by Richard H 15th March 2010, 12:19

Very Happy Daardie mangat se deksels al weer! Jy kan hom net hoor as hy diep genoeg is om te 'echo'!

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If I may propose something other than ATGATT - by way of experiment only, of course:
Take a ride on your bike wearing your full-face helmet.
Then put on a helmet that does NOT cover the ears - a la H-D riders*.
I think you will find your awareness of other traffic around you by way of sound surprising...!



(*For the same effect I could have suggested that you ride without a helmet - but that is illegal...!) Shocked
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