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Crash bobbins do their job...
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Crash bobbins do their job...
http://www.visordown.com/product-news/crash-bungs-they-stopped-this-s1000rr-from-paying-the-price/9852.html
Hope they never have to do it for me!
Looks like other places also have their fair share of pedestrian problems!!
Hope they never have to do it for me!
Looks like other places also have their fair share of pedestrian problems!!
DaveS- Committee member
- Number of posts : 1428
Location : Centurion
My bike : R1200GSA: R1200S(I think - has been annexed by Dorothy): S1000RR
Registration date : 2008-07-28
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Ouch! I also hope you never get to use them...
Marnus- Committee member
- Number of posts : 936
Age : 50
Location : Pretoria
My bike : R1200GSA / G450X / YZ450F
Registration date : 2008-11-20
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
I think they essential on your bike like crash bars on a GS !
Prevention always better !
Prevention always better !
DeonP- Turbocharged
- Number of posts : 469
Location : RANDPARK RIDGE , GAUTENG
My bike : 1200GS ADVENTURE
Registration date : 2008-07-09
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Dave - do you have it fitted to your bike????. In the 80's crashbars was standard on all superbikes. Later it was thought that said crashbards was the main cause for loss of limbs during accidents - hence it was removed - it however served the same puporse as these crash bobbins you now refer to.
LeRoy Olivier- LT Fanatic
- Number of posts : 1394
Age : 63
My bike : K1200LT
Registration date : 2008-06-09
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
LeRoy Olivier wrote:Dave - do you have it fitted to your bike????. In the 80's crashbars was standard on all superbikes. Later it was thought that said crashbards was the main cause for loss of limbs during accidents - hence it was removed - it however served the same puporse as these crash bobbins you now refer to.
Yes - one of the first things fitted. On the ADV have the crash bars as protection - so the crash bobbins will hopefully help if the S100RR should fall off the side stand.
DaveS- Committee member
- Number of posts : 1428
Location : Centurion
My bike : R1200GSA: R1200S(I think - has been annexed by Dorothy): S1000RR
Registration date : 2008-07-28
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Those indicators look rather fragile in that position.
Have you priced the part...?
(Betcha it costs a packet...!)
Have you priced the part...?
(Betcha it costs a packet...!)
Richard H- Senior Contributor
- Number of posts : 625
Age : 70
Location : Jacaranda City
My bike : R1200GS, R100S
Registration date : 2008-06-09
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Even if you put the led indicators on the bike they still vulnerable. Hopefully the bobbins will help for them too.
Guess it depends on whether the bike falls over sideways or with a forward motion.
Guess it depends on whether the bike falls over sideways or with a forward motion.
DaveS- Committee member
- Number of posts : 1428
Location : Centurion
My bike : R1200GSA: R1200S(I think - has been annexed by Dorothy): S1000RR
Registration date : 2008-07-28
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
LeRoy Olivier wrote: In the 80's crashbars was standard on all superbikes. Later it was thought that said crashbars was the main cause for loss of limbs during accidents - hence it was removed - it however served the same purpose as these crash bobbins you now refer to.
This came from an ill-conceived response to doctors concerns about motorcyclists. In the early fifties, motorcycles had no crash-bars and there was a very high number of ankle injuries resulting from them being crushed between motor and road surface. (Riding boots with built-in steel ankle protection plates did not exist at this time!) Responding to orthopaedic advice, the regulatory authorities brought in the bars to reduce the number of ankle injuries.
The number of ankle injuries recorded were reduced dramatically. But the motorcycles were never designed for the crash-bars in the first place and so they were just attached on to 'wherever' - usually the rear shock mounting bolt and the foot-peg mounting point - by means of a generic bracket. Unfortunately, these ad hoc mounting brackets deformed easily in an accident and folded over the rider or pillion passenger's leg, crushing the tibia and fibula. Yes, there was a recorded reduction in ankle injuries - but they didn't measure the number of amputations resulting from below-knee injuries. These rose steeply until, in the late seventies, the crash-bar requirement was removed - again on orthodpaedic advice.
Similarly, the increased use of moto-cross boots has reduced the number of ankle and leg breaks in riders, but the knee injuries have increased accordingly - especially riders using the rigid plastic boot which restricts the body's own slight flex in the tibia and fibula. It is also seen in dramatically in skiers wearing rigid boots that clip into their skis. The rotation of a ski moves up from the ankle, becomes a rotation in the knee and the two ligaments holding the kneecap in position can tear off - resulting in a difficult and rather unsuccessful surgical repair.
(BTW - Built-in ankle protection in a fall has always been one of the reasons why I love the BMW Boxer motor...!)
Interestingly too is the fact that the number of motorcycle accidents rises slightly when countries or states implement a helmet law.
(This is conveniently ignored by the legislators.) It is most noticeable where full-face helmets are required or encouraged for face protection and is believed to be due to the fact that motorcyclist loses one sense when wearing a helmet - hearing. This means, for example, that a rider cannot hear the sound of a cars engine as it moves to overtake. This only increases the need for riders to be more aware of what they see in their mirrors!
Lets be careful out there...!
Richard H- Senior Contributor
- Number of posts : 625
Age : 70
Location : Jacaranda City
My bike : R1200GS, R100S
Registration date : 2008-06-09
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Uhm... so I should not listen to my iPod in transit?
And I really couldn't hear the manhole without the cover
And I really couldn't hear the manhole without the cover
Marnus- Committee member
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Age : 50
Location : Pretoria
My bike : R1200GSA / G450X / YZ450F
Registration date : 2008-11-20
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Richard H wrote:
Interestingly too is the fact that the number of motorcycle accidents rises slightly when countries or states implement a helmet law.
(This is conveniently ignored by the legislators.) It is most noticeable where full-face helmets are required or encouraged for face protection and is believed to be due to the fact that motorcyclist loses one sense when wearing a helmet - hearing. This means, for example, that a rider cannot hear the sound of a cars engine as it moves to overtake. This only increases the need for riders to be more aware of what they see in their mirrors!
Must say, I don't believe that for one bit! Sounds like propaganda wars and one-sided research. I believe we compensate for visibility and less hearing by our nature (as if hearing a car on the Ben Schoeman makes any difference - how do you hear a lane change?) I've seen how quickly I adapted to the Leatt Brace.
Anyway, anyone who honestly thinks you are better off without a helmet than with one probably doesn't deserve what should be inside the helmet.
My cousin was killed in the States, falling while negotiating a long bend (on-ramp or something) He was wearing a helmet, his passenger without a helmet survived. So that happens, but if you honestly take that statistic and interpret it wrongly without applying common sense, then I don't know...
dakardrix- Senior Contributor
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Age : 60
Location : Pretoria
My bike : F800GS
Registration date : 2008-12-11
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Maybe the manhole cover was off - why you could not hear it?????
LeRoy Olivier- LT Fanatic
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Age : 63
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Registration date : 2008-06-09
Re: Crash bobbins do their job...
Daardie mangat se deksels al weer! Jy kan hom net hoor as hy diep genoeg is om te 'echo'!
If I may propose something other than ATGATT - by way of experiment only, of course:
Take a ride on your bike wearing your full-face helmet.
Then put on a helmet that does NOT cover the ears - a la H-D riders*.
I think you will find your awareness of other traffic around you by way of sound surprising...!
(*For the same effect I could have suggested that you ride without a helmet - but that is illegal...!)
If I may propose something other than ATGATT - by way of experiment only, of course:
Take a ride on your bike wearing your full-face helmet.
Then put on a helmet that does NOT cover the ears - a la H-D riders*.
I think you will find your awareness of other traffic around you by way of sound surprising...!
(*For the same effect I could have suggested that you ride without a helmet - but that is illegal...!)
Richard H- Senior Contributor
- Number of posts : 625
Age : 70
Location : Jacaranda City
My bike : R1200GS, R100S
Registration date : 2008-06-09
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